Tonight the Live Oak Board voted unanimously to disband the Gate Enhancement Committee so the Guard House issue is dead at this time.
However, after the first of January, when a new board has been installed for the Live Oak HOA, gate improvements will again be investigated. However, they made clear that any new gate committee will not have the same leadership.
They may also require that anyone who wants a Guard House must present a petition signed by 51% of the owners behind the gates before proceeding with this issue.
So that's where it stands right now.
Thursday, October 23, 2008
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
LVLO HOA Board Meeting
The next La Verne Live Oak Homeowners meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 (not Oct 29th). It will be at the La Verne Community Center at 7 pm.
Please attend if you can.
Please attend if you can.
Monday, October 13, 2008
Gates Enhancement Committee Meeting on 10/9/08
The first meeting of the committee on gate enhancement was somewhat of a surprise to all who attended. Most of the meeting was run by the president of the La Verne Live Oak HOA. Which was not correct, but when he, it appeared in exasperation, asked the chairman if he was ever going to do something the meeting heated up.
We were informed that the only information to go to the board of the HOA was to be from him and that all of the committee members had no say in whatever was recommended.
We did feel as if we were in the presence of a dictator.
When a member of the committee voiced concern and opposition, the chairman became very loud and informed all of us that if we did not agree with him we were off of the committee and that that member was kicked off right then and there because the board of the HOA had given him the power by making him Chairman.
It is apparent that if we ever expect anything to be done about the gates that the majority of the homeowners that live within the gates may want, it cannot be done with that person as chairman of this important committee. Most of the people concerned strongly feel that a survey should be conducted as soon as possible to ask the important question of whether or not there should be a guard shack (house or whatever) and guard, get that out of picture and then and only then can we get on with the problem of maintenance, or rebuilding or whatever of the gates.
This should be a decision of all the homeowners within the gated community. I might add that right now with the financial picture the way it is there are many who cannot afford any expense added to their lives and that those who want to add more to the gates to add a guard house/guard, beautify or anything else for their own ego massaging is really self-centered and thoughtless.
I would hope all that feel the way we do would try to appear at the next La Verne / Live Oak HOA Meeting (10/29/08 at the La Verne Community Center) and voice your concern.
We were informed that the only information to go to the board of the HOA was to be from him and that all of the committee members had no say in whatever was recommended.
We did feel as if we were in the presence of a dictator.
When a member of the committee voiced concern and opposition, the chairman became very loud and informed all of us that if we did not agree with him we were off of the committee and that that member was kicked off right then and there because the board of the HOA had given him the power by making him Chairman.
It is apparent that if we ever expect anything to be done about the gates that the majority of the homeowners that live within the gates may want, it cannot be done with that person as chairman of this important committee. Most of the people concerned strongly feel that a survey should be conducted as soon as possible to ask the important question of whether or not there should be a guard shack (house or whatever) and guard, get that out of picture and then and only then can we get on with the problem of maintenance, or rebuilding or whatever of the gates.
This should be a decision of all the homeowners within the gated community. I might add that right now with the financial picture the way it is there are many who cannot afford any expense added to their lives and that those who want to add more to the gates to add a guard house/guard, beautify or anything else for their own ego massaging is really self-centered and thoughtless.
I would hope all that feel the way we do would try to appear at the next La Verne / Live Oak HOA Meeting (10/29/08 at the La Verne Community Center) and voice your concern.
Sunday, September 28, 2008
GOV SIGNS AB 2846: SMALL CLAIMS COURT AND DISPUTED SUMS
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2008OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA
The Governor signed AB 2846 today, legislation affecting all homeowners who want to dispute assessments or other charges levied by an association board. Assembly Member Mike Feuer [D-Los Angeles], who authored the bill, announced the signing Sunday night.
The new law allows homeowners to pay a disputed charge under protest and to set the matter before a small claims court. The disputed sum cannot exceed the jurisdictional limit of small claims, which is now $7500. The law takes effect January 2009.
This right of homeowners to "pay under protest" was deleted from the Civil Code two years ago. The state statute originally applied only to assessments. AB 2846 now allows homeowners to use small claims court to dispute fines and other charges, including collection costs.
The California Alliance for Retired Americans (CARA) was the sponsor of the measure and partnered with the Center for California Homeowner Association Law to find a lawmaker to carry the bill. Assembly Member Feuer agreed to author the legislation, because there are more than 12,000 homeowner associations in Los Angeles County, where his district is located.
He also wanted to carry the bill because of his long-standing commitment to Access to Justice issues. He sawAB 2846 as Access to Justice legislation, because it establishes small claims court as a neutral place where homeowners can get a fair hearing on disputed sums.
Currently, homeowners can only dispute the charges before the association board (or one of its vendors), i.e. the entity that levied the charges. Association boards and vendors -- property managers, law firms, and debt collectors -- are not neutral third parties in such disputes.
Feuer has just been appointed Chair of the Assembly Judiciary Committee, a post he will take up next session.
AB 2846 was also supported by the California Judicial Council, the policymaking body for the state courts, and by the Self-Help Legal Access Center of the Ventura Superior Court.
CCHAL urges homeowners throughout the state to thank Mike Feuer for carrying AB 2846. Please email your thanks to Feuer's staff member Scott Ogus at scott.ogus@asm.ca.gov.
You can read the entire text of the bill at www.leginfo.ca.gov.
If you have questions about the measure, email us at www.calhomelaw.org
Marjorie Murray, President
Center for California Homeowner Association LawA 501c3 nonprofit
The Governor signed AB 2846 today, legislation affecting all homeowners who want to dispute assessments or other charges levied by an association board. Assembly Member Mike Feuer [D-Los Angeles], who authored the bill, announced the signing Sunday night.
The new law allows homeowners to pay a disputed charge under protest and to set the matter before a small claims court. The disputed sum cannot exceed the jurisdictional limit of small claims, which is now $7500. The law takes effect January 2009.
This right of homeowners to "pay under protest" was deleted from the Civil Code two years ago. The state statute originally applied only to assessments. AB 2846 now allows homeowners to use small claims court to dispute fines and other charges, including collection costs.
The California Alliance for Retired Americans (CARA) was the sponsor of the measure and partnered with the Center for California Homeowner Association Law to find a lawmaker to carry the bill. Assembly Member Feuer agreed to author the legislation, because there are more than 12,000 homeowner associations in Los Angeles County, where his district is located.
He also wanted to carry the bill because of his long-standing commitment to Access to Justice issues. He sawAB 2846 as Access to Justice legislation, because it establishes small claims court as a neutral place where homeowners can get a fair hearing on disputed sums.
Currently, homeowners can only dispute the charges before the association board (or one of its vendors), i.e. the entity that levied the charges. Association boards and vendors -- property managers, law firms, and debt collectors -- are not neutral third parties in such disputes.
Feuer has just been appointed Chair of the Assembly Judiciary Committee, a post he will take up next session.
AB 2846 was also supported by the California Judicial Council, the policymaking body for the state courts, and by the Self-Help Legal Access Center of the Ventura Superior Court.
CCHAL urges homeowners throughout the state to thank Mike Feuer for carrying AB 2846. Please email your thanks to Feuer's staff member Scott Ogus at scott.ogus@asm.ca.gov.
You can read the entire text of the bill at www.leginfo.ca.gov.
If you have questions about the measure, email us at www.calhomelaw.org
Marjorie Murray, President
Center for California Homeowner Association LawA 501c3 nonprofit
Saturday, September 27, 2008
More - Board Meeting Comments
The meeting of the La Verne/Liveoak HOA on Wednesday the 24th was a very subdued, matter of fact meeting. But one thing stood out in my mind, the fact that it would appear the powers that be, ( the President and the absent Chairman of the gate committee) appear to be dragging the proposition of the gate, survey, guard, etc.out to wear us down, as witness the attendance of homeowners at said meeting.
I am sure I am not the only one who noticed that the meeting of the committee on the gate enhancement was having a hard time meeting because he, the president and he the chairman were so busy that it was hard for them to make time in their busy schedules to find the right time and place for such a meeting. Now if memory serves there are 25 or so people signed on to this committee but apparently only those two count. Now the president himself said we are all equal in this endeavor. Apparently some are more equal than others.
From what I have heard in the past this is what they intend and they have no intention of letting this get out of their control. They have an agenda and have had it for the last 2 to 3 years, it has never been off the table and from day one and they will continue until they get what they want.
Now many of us feel that if they do not set up a meeting and get the survey in the works within the next month, then we the members of this HOA will be getting together and developing our own survey format, and ask the board to use it.
I am sure I am not the only one who noticed that the meeting of the committee on the gate enhancement was having a hard time meeting because he, the president and he the chairman were so busy that it was hard for them to make time in their busy schedules to find the right time and place for such a meeting. Now if memory serves there are 25 or so people signed on to this committee but apparently only those two count. Now the president himself said we are all equal in this endeavor. Apparently some are more equal than others.
From what I have heard in the past this is what they intend and they have no intention of letting this get out of their control. They have an agenda and have had it for the last 2 to 3 years, it has never been off the table and from day one and they will continue until they get what they want.
Now many of us feel that if they do not set up a meeting and get the survey in the works within the next month, then we the members of this HOA will be getting together and developing our own survey format, and ask the board to use it.
Friday, September 26, 2008
Board Meeting
Many thanks to all of you who attended Wednesday night's Live Oak Board meeting (Oriole was particularly well represented).
Even though the agenda stated that a schedule for the Gate Committee would be presented Brian (President of the Live Oak Board) indicated that he had not had a chance to speak to Massro (Chairman of the Committee) about setting up committee meeting date(s) because of "school". He stated that when a meeting is scheduled the committee members will be notified and that it will probably follow a regular meeting of the Board.
The Jameson's
Even though the agenda stated that a schedule for the Gate Committee would be presented Brian (President of the Live Oak Board) indicated that he had not had a chance to speak to Massro (Chairman of the Committee) about setting up committee meeting date(s) because of "school". He stated that when a meeting is scheduled the committee members will be notified and that it will probably follow a regular meeting of the Board.
The Jameson's
Wednesday, September 24, 2008
LVLO Association Board Meeting - September
The association board meeting was held this evening. The gates committee report was postponed until next meeting. The gates committee did not meet since last board meeting.
Board President, Scherer, and Gates Committee head, Massro, are attempting to plan a meeting during the upcoming month, which will include 25 to 30 committee members. They are trying to locate a room where the meeting can be held. They were unable to coordinate their busy schedules and locate a place since the last meeting.
Gates Committee members will be contacted by Haven Management and advised of the committee meeting date and location. The committee will meet and discuss options for maintaining and enhancing the gates. The committee will then present its ideas to the board and the board will vote to proceed or not to proceed.
A preliminary poll of all homeowners will be taken to find out which direction the committee should move on the gates. If enhancements are being considered that are over the existing gate reserves, an official vote of the homeowners will have to take place for more funding.
The Gates Committee is open to all homeowners; if you are interested in serving, contact Nadine at Haven Management, nadine@haven-management.net , and you will be notified of the upcoming meeting.
Board President, Scherer, and Gates Committee head, Massro, are attempting to plan a meeting during the upcoming month, which will include 25 to 30 committee members. They are trying to locate a room where the meeting can be held. They were unable to coordinate their busy schedules and locate a place since the last meeting.
Gates Committee members will be contacted by Haven Management and advised of the committee meeting date and location. The committee will meet and discuss options for maintaining and enhancing the gates. The committee will then present its ideas to the board and the board will vote to proceed or not to proceed.
A preliminary poll of all homeowners will be taken to find out which direction the committee should move on the gates. If enhancements are being considered that are over the existing gate reserves, an official vote of the homeowners will have to take place for more funding.
The Gates Committee is open to all homeowners; if you are interested in serving, contact Nadine at Haven Management, nadine@haven-management.net , and you will be notified of the upcoming meeting.
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